This is precisely what makes me feel most hopeless.

I can daydream all I want about intelligent liberals using values-based language to court right-wing humanity but if they’ve already drawn their line in the sand maybe, dare I say, it’s too late. You can’t argue with anyone’s gut who doesn’t want to use their mind.

It’s unfortunate that treating guests with respect and correcting her own mistakes are high marks in journalism these days but you’re right. She is a respectful host and an honest intellect.